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Sue Cameron’s Book

Postby Kate » Tue Aug 21, 2018 3:53 pm

Does anyone know if Dusty appears in Sue Cameron’s book Hollywood Secrets and Scandals?
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Re: Sue Cameron’s Book

Postby IWannaBeABluesSinger » Wed Aug 22, 2018 5:50 am

God, let's hope not.

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Re: Sue Cameron’s Book

Postby daydreamer » Wed Aug 22, 2018 9:54 pm

Yes she does. You can "look inside" on Amazon.
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Re: Sue Cameron’s Book

Postby pat.dunham » Thu Aug 23, 2018 3:43 pm

I wonder what happened to the Carole King demo CD?
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Re: Sue Cameron’s Book

Postby edjames » Fri Aug 24, 2018 3:45 pm

Released in 2012.
Available on Amazon and other online retailers.
Alas, no demos of Goin Back, So Much Love, Don't Forget About Me, or I Can't Make It Alone...and many other Goffin/King songs Dusty recorded.

The Legendary Demos is a compilation album by pop rock artist Carole King. It was released on April 24, 2012 on Hear Music. The album contains thirteen demo recordings, ranging in time from "Crying in the Rain" (1962) to six tracks that appeared on King's 1971 hit album Tapestry.[1]

Track listing
"Pleasant Valley Sunday" (Carole King, Gerry Goffin)
"So Goes Love" (Carole King, Gerry Goffin)
"Take Care of My Baby" (Carole King, Gerry Goffin)
"(You Make Me Feel Like) A Natural Woman" (Carole King, Gerry Goffin, Jerry Wexler)
"Like Little Children" (Carole King, Gerry Goffin)
"Beautiful" (Carole King)
"Crying in the Rain" (Carole King, Howard Greenfield)
"Way Over Yonder" (Carole King)
"Yours Until Tomorrow" (Carole King, Gerry Goffin)
"It's Too Late" (Carole King, Toni Stern)
"Tapestry" (Carole King)
"Just Once in My Life" (Carole King, Gerry Goffin, Phil Spector)
"You've Got a Friend" (Carole King)
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Re: Sue Cameron’s Book

Postby pat.dunham » Fri Aug 24, 2018 7:21 pm

Thanks for the info re CK's compilation.

I did not make myself clear, as I was referring to Sue Cameron's book. Having a " look in" on Amazon SC wrote that when Dusty was very ill Carole King with Carole Bayer Sager wrote five songs for Dusty, hoping that she would be able to record them. A demo by CK was sent via SC to Dusty but she did not listen to it. CK was so anxious that the recording be made she wanted to set up a recording studio in Dusty's house. Dusty admitted that she could no longer sing and the thought of meeting up with CK was just too much.

Can't copy due to copyright.

I haven't transcribed this very well but it is a very moving passage.
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Re: Sue Cameron’s Book

Postby edjames » Sun Aug 26, 2018 6:03 pm

Dusty had a longtime respect for Carole King.
While stopping over in NYC in December of 1967, Dusty and I discussed the availability of new material for her to record. She mentioned that she had phoned Carole the previous night and unfortunately Carole had nothing to offer her.
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Re: Sue Cameron’s Book

Postby edjames » Fri Aug 31, 2018 7:39 pm

The book arrived from Amazon this morning and I've had a quick scan through it.
For those of you fearful that Sue would reveal some deep dark tales abut Dusty, rest in peace, Sue mentions Dusty four or five times throughout the book and only in one chapter does she specifically tell a Dusty tale, and one that is perhaps, quite touching and tearful.

On page 91, under the heading SPECIAL NOTE. this is the story of Dusty's offer from Carole King:

"Dusty Springfield was Carole King's favorite singer. She told me many times that Dusty was the best interpreter of her songs she'd ever heard. When Dusty was struggling with breast cancer, Carole and Carole Bayer Sager wrote about five songs fro Dusty to sing. I got a call from Carole(King) asking me to send the demos to Dusty and see if she would record them. I told her Dusty was getting weaker. Carole said that she would set up the entire studio in Dusty's house and come over to London and produce the songs herself. She told me her biggest dream was recording a duet with Dusty.
I received the demos and listened before I sent them to Dusty. I couldn't stop crying. The songs were so beautiful and so perfect. I decided to send them to her with a note so she'd get a surprise in the mail. I called the day after I knew the CD would arrive to give her time to hear them.
I told her on the phone how much I loved the songs and asked if she was happy with them.
"I haven't listened to them. It makes me too sad." And then she paused and I heard her try to compose herself. "I can't sing anymore" said Dusty, one of the greatest voices in in the history of music. Her breast cancer was very advanced now and I wanted to curl up and die with her at this news.
"You know Carole (King) wants to come over to your house and set up so its easy for you," I said trying not to cry with her (yet).
"I am terrified to meet her," said Dusty. "Her talent is mindboggling. Even if I could still sing, I'd be afraid because she would be there. I wouldn't have been able to do it anyway."
Carole was devastated by the news. I've never recovered from losing Dusty. "

Dusty gets several more mentions in chapters related to Pheobe Snow, Labelle and a couple of other places.

Two nice Dusty pics, one of Dusty and Sue at the tennis courts after a terrible case of discrimination against Nona when Dusty, Sue and Nona were blocked from playing tennis at the hotel. (we've seen this pic before, but the the tale of the event that lead up to it.)

A nice group photo of Dusty, Lesley Gore,Jackie DeShannnon, Liz Torres, Jessica Walter and Marlo Thomas at Sue's birthday party at Richard Simmons(!) exercise studio in LA. (Cat will have to get her hands of this one to add to her collection on the picture thread)

Finally Sue closes the book with a short chapter about the deaths of famous people and how difficult it becomes because they become part of "the public domain."

All in all, this is hardly a tell-all, juicy tale of the the other side of Hollywood and most secrets are kept under wraps. This is a book relating various stories about people Sue has been close to over the years and from those parts I stopped to read she's respectful and polite. I will read the entire book very soon.
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Re: Sue Cameron’s Book

Postby trek007 » Sat Sep 01, 2018 6:47 am

Thanks for writing out the extract from the book.
A sad story.
I wonder what happened to the songs?
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Re: Sue Cameron’s Book

Postby Cardiff Bluesgirl » Sat Sep 01, 2018 6:52 am

Yes sad to hear this, she must have longed to be able to sing these and was so respectful re Carole king.
Even at the end of her life she didnt think she was good enough.... [:(]
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Re: Sue Cameron’s Book

Postby Corinna » Wed Sep 05, 2018 5:20 pm

Very touching indeed. Thanks for relating this to us, Ed!
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Re: Sue Cameron’s Book

Postby daydreamer » Sat Sep 08, 2018 8:13 am

While I'm sure there IS some truth in the Carole King story, I honestly take a lot that Sue Cameron says with a pinch of salt. I recently had a short exchange of messages with a lady who knew Dusty very well during her time in America and who was in touch with her to the end, she basically said that most of the stories from those who claimed "significant relationships" with Dusty were "90% pipe dreams that were mostly unrecognisable in the cold light of day".

This is the photo that Ed mentions, I found it online.

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Re: Sue Cameron’s Book

Postby edjames » Sat Sep 08, 2018 5:59 pm

Well, Carole, I guess its a case of "she said," " she said". You and I were not in LA during Dusty's residency there and I'll guess the truth may always be stretched a bit. I have no doubt to question Sue.

Perhaps can verify the story with Simon or Pat. Someone had to be going through the mail and answering the phone....someone may even have the demos.

That said, I've finished the book. It isn't the world greatest memoir and the writing is not as polished as I would have thought a reporter of Sue's career would have. I hope that makes sense. Sue doesn't really reveal any "scandals" or stories that might make the hair on your arms stand up. She has had an interesting career and life. She's certainly known many a celebrity or two in her time and been very close to some of them (Debbie Reynolds, Cast Elliot, Kim Novak, Phoebe Snow, and others). Most of the people in the book are B and C list celebrities. Some tales are very short and merely anecdotes. Others are a few paragraphs or a couple of pages.

And, no salacious or cringe worthy tales of Dusty. Dusty is mentioned a few times but nothing of any importance.

May Dusty rest in peace....20 years since her untimely passing coming up...God bless her soul. I hope she is truly at peace, and has just helped welcome Aretha into the heavenly choir. I can imagine Dusty at heaven's gates saying "Girrrrl" to Aretha!

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Re: Sue Cameron’s Book

Postby JMFabianoRPL » Mon Nov 26, 2018 2:31 pm

edjames wrote:Well, Carole, I guess its a case of "she said," " she said". You and I were not in LA during Dusty's residency there and I'll guess the truth may always be stretched a bit. I have no doubt to question Sue.

Perhaps can verify the story with Simon or Pat. Someone had to be going through the mail and answering the phone....someone may even have the demos.

That said, I've finished the book. It isn't the world greatest memoir and the writing is not as polished as I would have thought a reporter of Sue's career would have. I hope that makes sense. Sue doesn't really reveal any "scandals" or stories that might make the hair on your arms stand up. She has had an interesting career and life. She's certainly known many a celebrity or two in her time and been very close to some of them (Debbie Reynolds, Cast Elliot, Kim Novak, Phoebe Snow, and others). Most of the people in the book are B and C list celebrities. Some tales are very short and merely anecdotes. Others are a few paragraphs or a couple of pages.

And, no salacious or cringe worthy tales of Dusty. Dusty is mentioned a few times but nothing of any importance.

May Dusty rest in peace....20 years since her untimely passing coming up...God bless her soul. I hope she is truly at peace, and has just helped welcome Aretha into the heavenly choir. I can imagine Dusty at heaven's gates saying "Girrrrl" to Aretha!

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I think it's telling that Sue was the one of which Dusty once said, "Thank God that's over, whatever did I see in that woman?" But hey, I wasn't there, so I don't know. I just know there's certain other women and people I'm sure she'd say the same about.

Pat and Simon definitely, huh? What, no other people who were "authorized"?
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