question on Love Songs CD 1983/1986

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question on Love Songs CD 1983/1986

Postby Clive » Fri Mar 17, 2017 11:34 am

Dusty's first ever release on CD was the Love Songs CD in Holland in 1983, later released in W. Germany in 1986.

I have looked on Discogs website (links below) but can't be sure how to differentiate between the two releases as they have the same catalogue number.

Does anyone have the original Dutch 1983 CD? Are there any distinguishing features on the CD itself or cover ?

Also does anyone know if a Dusty track ever appeared on a various artists compilation CD prior to this?

http://www.discogs.com/Dusty-Springfield-Love-Songs/release/5070598

http://www.discogs.com/Dusty-Springfield-Love-Songs/release/6768408
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Re: question on Love Songs CD 1983/1986

Postby Frans » Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:04 pm

Is this any help? The red one is original, blue is re-issue

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Re: question on Love Songs CD 1983/1986

Postby Clive » Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:07 pm

Perfect!, thanks for posting Frans

( I have the blue one)
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Re: question on Love Songs CD 1983/1986

Postby Frans » Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:13 pm

You're welcome! :thumbsup:
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Re: question on Love Songs CD 1983/1986

Postby Clive » Fri Mar 17, 2017 3:44 pm

When you think about it Dusty has quite a few connections to the Netherlands doesn't she.
As well as her having lived there, Netherlands first country in the world to release a Dusty CD, original home of Philips Records, also many of her singles had picture sleeves in Holland where they didn't elsewhere.
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Re: question on Love Songs CD 1983/1986

Postby countrycake » Fri Mar 17, 2017 5:44 pm

The 1983 Dutch issue of the Love Songs CD was withdrawn very soon after release, the reason being that Phonogram had no legal right to make CD issues of Dusty's recordings. Their contracts with Dusty pre-dated the advent of CDs and only specified issues on vinyl and tape. So red faces at Phonogram and the withdrawal of the CD.

The CD appeared in Phonogram's UK catalogue in 1983 and HMV in Glasgow tried to order me a copy, only to be told that the catalogue number did not exist. Dusty tried to negotiate a higher CD royalty rate than other artists had agreed, but the record company would not play ball. It was not until 1987 that Dusty and the company agreed terms, which were the same as those for other artists. This agreement enabled the company to issue the CD Dusty: The Silver Collection in January 1988.

Love Songs followed on 13 June 1988 in the UK. Paul Howes' book notes that Love Songs was 'initially issued in Holland in 1983 but withdrawn for contractual reasons'. The British issue of Love Songs was pressed in what was then West Germany and shows the compilation as having been first published in 1983.
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Re: question on Love Songs CD 1983/1986

Postby Clive » Fri Mar 17, 2017 5:57 pm

Interesting JIm, I didn't know that was the reason why the 83 CD was withdrawn.

So was the UK release in 88 exactly the same as the German 86 CD? (the blue one Frans posted)

(or maybe Discogs has wrong date and should have 88 not 86 as the date)
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Re: question on Love Songs CD 1983/1986

Postby countrycake » Fri Mar 17, 2017 8:01 pm

Clive wrote:Interesting JIm, I didn't know that was the reason why the 83 CD was withdrawn.

So was the UK release in 88 exactly the same as the German 86 CD? (the blue one Frans posted)

(or maybe Discogs has wrong date and should have 88 not 86 as the date)


I think that the date of 1986 is simply erroneous. Having got its corporate fingers burned in 1983, Phonogram would have been foolhardy in the extreme to do the same in 1986. It could have left them open to a claim from Dusty for aggravated damages on the grounds that the company had knowingly issued CDs of Springfield recordings when they knew they had no legal right to do so and had known that since 1983. The blue label Frans supplied is identical to the one I purchased in 1988.

The fact that a CD carries the words 'Manufactured in W Germany' does not necessarily mean that the CD is for the West German market. In the early days of CDs all of Phonogram's CDs for European release were pressed at PolyGram's huge plant in Hannover.

It is highly likely that the red label relates to the initial Dutch release. According to a site I found, that CD label design (known as Philips Red Swirls) was only in use for a relatively short time, ie 1982-1983. The blue label design succeeded it.
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Re: question on Love Songs CD 1983/1986

Postby Clive » Fri Mar 17, 2017 9:09 pm

yes I'd agree that the second disc is from 88 and that Discogs year is wrong.

I didn't get the CD back then , only got it a few years ago on ebay,as far as I recall it was from a seller in Germany
so that added to my confusion whether it was the same as the UK issue.

The artwork and disc in the Discogs entry that they claim is from 1986 is identical to mine , only the maxtrix number in the playout is one digit different.

The original Dutch compiler chose unusual tracks I thought, some quite obscure. You might have expected early CD releases to concentrate on the hits. Also a 60s photo of Dusty might have been expected instead of a recent-ish (in 1983) one.

Incidentally the version of I Am Your Child is the one where the first word of the song is cut, only CD release of this version I think.
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Re: question on Love Songs CD 1983/1986

Postby Frans » Sat Mar 18, 2017 9:30 am

Bit of an obscurity, this record. The other issues I have are on 45s (B-side of "Knees" and "Let me love you once before you go"), and on Something Special and Beautiful Soul.

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I didn't notice the difference in the beginnings of the songs till now, thank you Clive:



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Re: question on Love Songs CD 1983/1986

Postby countrycake » Sat Mar 18, 2017 7:23 pm

Clive, I agree with what you say about the choice of tracks. Eccentric doesn't begin to describe it.
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